Thursday, March 27, 2008

BERETTA 92 - RECOMMENDED & MORE

UPDATED SUN. - MARCH 30, 2008


rense.com
Bush Closer To Bombing Iran
By Matthew Rothschild
The Progressive - UK
3-30-8
The odds of Bush bombing Iran have gone up dramatically this week.
There's just no other way to rationally interpret the resignation of Admiral William Fallon as head of Centcom.
Fallon resigned, and more likely was pushed out, after Esquire published an article on him entitled "The Man Between War and Peace." It said he was the one standing in the way of Bush bombing Iran.
He's not standing in the way any longer.
Actually, his rival, General David Petraeus, is now more powerful than ever. And as the Esquire article noted, Petraeus has said: "You cannot win in Iraq solely in Iraq."
Fallon seemed to understand the risk he was taking when he took the job as head of Centcom. He told Esquire: "Career capping? How about career detonating?"
Fallon's fate as a weathervane for war with Iran has been clear since the time of his confirmation, when he told a source that an attack on Iran "will not happen on my watch." His watch just stopped.
He also said at the time, "There are several of us trying to put the crazies back in the box."
But the crazies are still bounding around outside the box, and none crazier than Dick Cheney, who is off on a Mideast trip, ostensibly to deal with Israel and Palestine and also with high oil prices.
But there are other purposes, as well. Cheney is visiting Oman, "a key military ally and logistics hub for military operations in the Persian Gulf," notes U.S. News & World Report. What's more, according to U.S. News, "two U.S. warships took up positions off Lebanon earlier this month." The Pentagon "would want its warships in the eastern Mediterranean in the event of military action against Iran to keep Iranian ally Syria in check and to help provide air cover to Israel against Iranian missile reprisals," the story said. "One of the newly deployed ships, the USS Ross, is an Aegis guised missile destroyer, a top system for defense against air attacks."
U.S. News cited three other signs why war is more likely now: Israel's airstrike on Syria, Israel's war with Hezbollah, and Shimon Peres's disavowal of unilateral action.
Here's one more: The director of national intelligence, Mike McConnell, testified to the Senate on February 5 that maybe in last fall's NIE he overstressed the fact that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons work. And maybe he overplayed the fact that Iran doesn't know how to design a nuclear weapon just yet.
And maybe he should have highlighted the fact that Iran was still enriching uranium. And maybe he should have emphasized that, therefore, Iran still poses a potential nuclear threat.
"In retrospect," McConnell said, "I would do some things differently."
Like give Bush and Cheney exactly what they ask for.
Something Admiral Fallon, to his credit, was not prepared to do.
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Prepare for the Worst, Because Solar Storms Are About to Get Ugly

By Erin Biba Email 03.24.08 | 6:00 PM
Photo: SOHO, ESA, NASA

Every 11 years or so, the sun gets a little pissy. It breaks out in a rash of planet-sized sunspots that spew superhot gas, hurling clouds of electrons, protons, and heavier ions toward Earth at nearly the speed of light. These solar windstorms have been known to knock out power grids and TV broadcasts, and our growing reliance on space-based technology makes us more vulnerable than ever to their effects. On January 3, scientists discovered a reverse-polarity sunspot, signaling the start of a new cycle — and some are predicting that at its peak (in about four years) things are gonna get nasty.

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ITS ALL PREDICTED IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 34 - VERSE 6
"THERE WILL BE A SLAUGHTER FOR G-D IN BASRA"


« A Mahdi Army militiaman aims with his AK-47 during clashes in the southern city of Basra on March 27. Heavy fighting erupted in a bastion of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s militia on Thursday as military operations against gunmen in the city entered a third day.
(ESSAM AL-SUDANI/AFP/Getty Images)

Violence Flares in Iraq

March 28, 2008 | From theTrumpet.com

Security in Iraq has sharply deteriorated.

Violence has exploded in Iraq after some months of relative quiet.

For the past three days, Iraqi troops have targeted Shiite militias in the southern port city of Basra, with militiamen reportedly using mortar shells, sniper fire, roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades to repel security forces. Since Wednesday, at least 56 people have been killed.

Responding to the government crackdown on Shiite militias in Basra, Muqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army is pounding Baghdad’s U.S.-protected Green Zone with rocket fire. The security operation has triggered a wave of Shiite violence through southern Iraq and in Baghdad, and thousands of protestors have demanded Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Malaki resign. U.S. Embassy staff in Baghdad have been advised to wear helmets and other protective gear if they venture outside, and to sleep in blast-resistant locations. The Iraqi spokesman for the Baghdad security operation has been kidnapped and three of his bodyguards killed.

Unsurprisingly, Pentagon officials report that the weapons being used to attack the Green Zone include rockets made in Iran.

The security operation is an attempt by Iraq’s central government to gain control of the critical oil hub of the nation. Basra, Iraq’s second-largest city, is critical to the country’s oil exports, its only source of income: 90 percent of Iraqi crude is exported through the city’s infrastructure. Highlighting the vulnerability of Iraq’s oil-dependent economy was the bombing on Thursday of a major crude export pipeline in Basra, causing the main pumping station to be shut down and reducing oil production and movement by one third until the pipeline is repaired.

Basra has been under control of rival Shiite militias pretty much since the U.S. invasion of Iraq. British troops, who withdrew from Basra late last year, were never able to wrest control of the city from the militias. Now, with security in the region deteriorating, the Iraqi government has acted to gain control of the region.

In a speech broadcast on Iraqi state tv, Prime Minister al-Malaki said Iraq had become a “nation of gangs, militias and outlaws” and he was undertaking a “historic mission” in Basra to restore “the law of the land.”

Al-Malaki has ordered Mahdi Army militiamen to surrender by the weekend; as of Thursday, they were still forcefully resisting the crackdown and still controlling the streets of Basra.

Stratfor reports that the operation is in the interests both of the country’s most powerful Shiite movement, the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq (isci) led by Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, and Iran (March 26):

Targeting the chief rivals of the isci, which seeks to establish an autonomous Shiite region in the south, gives al-Hakim’s group an opportunity to consolidate itself in what is perhaps the most important part of the Shiite south. …

Stability in Iraq’s Shiite areas also better serves Tehran’s long-term interests; a southern federal zone could help achieve such stability.

The results of this current security operation could have great impact on the future of U.S. forces in Iraq. It could help prove whether the U.S. troop surge in Iraq has, in the longer term, been a success or failure. Violence has indeed greatly decreased over recent months in Iraq; but this is largely as a result of the unilateral cease-fire of al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army seven months ago. The test is now—when the militia is starting to fight back.

If the Iraqi government demonstrates it has the ability to, at least in part, bring a festering insurgency under control, America will have the rationale it is looking for to hasten troop withdrawal from the country. On the other hand, if the Shiite militias win out, the United States will be all the more forced to rely on Shiite Iran to reign in Iraq’s Shiites. Either way, it is a situation worth watching.

We can expect Iran to try to use this as a means of furthering its influence in Iraq. Read our March 13 article “Troop Surge in Iraq: Success or Failure?” for a longer-term perspective on the Iraqi situation’s impact on America.
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FROM "DEBKA"

Exclusive: First signs of weakening in Maliki-led government Basra offensive

March 28, 2008, 5:26 PM (GMT+02:00)

Basra embattled

Basra embattled

DEBKAfile’s military sources report: After three days of combat, thousands of troops led by prime minister Nouri al Maliki have made no headway in breaking the grip of militias and gangs on the southern oil city of Basra and the outlying towns. Friday, March 28, the prime minister softened his previous ultimatum for combatants to hand over their weapons, extending it from Saturday night to April 8, and throwing in “a financial reward” for those complying.

From a go-it-alone Iraqi venture, Maliki was reduced Friday to calling in US airplanes to bomb militia positions holding fast in Basra. Moqtada Sadr’s Mehdi army appears still in control of the densely-populated areas of Basra, Iraq’s third largest city of 2.5 million, as well as taking over the center of Shiite Nasiriyeh. The intra-Shiite clashes have also spread to the southern Shiite cities of Kut, Hilla, Diwaniya, Amara and Karbala.

DEBKAfile’s sources report that for Maliki, the intra-Shiite conflict which he has ignited in the whole of southern Iraq up to and including Baghdad is looking like a win-all, lose-all gamble for himself and his government.

In the Shiite neighborhoods of Baghdad, thousands of Sadr supporters took to the streets sparring with the US Strykers and police and calling for Maliki to resign.

After Sadr called for a political solution to the crisis, Iraq’s parliament was called into session Friday afternoon. They will meet under the three-day curfew imposed on Baghdad after repeated rocket attacks on the fortified Green Zone seat of government left two US government employees dead.

US embassy staff in Baghdad have been told not to leave reinforced structures and wear protective clothing including helmets following the rocket attacks on the Green Zone – 16 Wednesday and 12 Tuesday. The three-day curfew imposed Thursday night bans pedestrian and vehicle traffic in the city.

Two oil pipelines were hit by bombs after the fighting began - one carrying oil to an export terminal in Basra harbor. Thursday night, Maliki was praised by President George Bush, who said “normalcy was returning to Iraq.”


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Beretta 92

Beretta 92FS
Type Semi-automatic pistol
Place of origin Flag of Italy Italy
Service history
Used by
  • Italian Military
  • U.S. Military (M9)
  • French Military (92G)
Production history
Manufacturer Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta
Produced 1975–present
Variants See Variants and Development
Specifications
Weight
  • 950 g (33.5 oz) (92)
  • 970 g (34.2 oz) (92S/SB/F/G)
  • 920 g (32.5 oz) (92D)
  • 900 g (31.7 oz) (Compact/Vertec)
Length
  • 217 mm (8.5 in)
  • 211 mm (8.3 in) (Vertec)
  • 197 mm (7.8 in) (Compact/Centurion)
Barrel length
  • 125 mm (4.9 in)
  • 119 mm (4.7 in) (Vertec)
  • 109 mm (4.3 in) (Compact/Centurion)

Cartridge
Feed system Detachable box magazine:
  • 10, 15, 17, 18, 20 rounds (92, 98 series)
  • 11 rounds (96 series)
  • 10, 13 rounds (Compact L)
  • 8 rounds (Compact M)

The Beretta 92 (also Beretta 96 and Beretta 98) is a series of semi-automatic pistols designed and manufactured by Beretta of Italy. It was designed in 1972 and production of many variants in different calibers continues to the present day. It is most famous for replacing the M1911 .45 ACP pistol as the standard sidearm of the United States armed forces in 1985 as the M9 pistol.

Although only 5000 copies of the original design were manufactured from 1975 to 1976, the design is currently produced in four different configurations (FS, G, D and DS) and three calibers:

Contents


History

The Beretta 92 pistol evolved from earlier Beretta designs, most notably the M1922 and M1951. From the M922 comes the open slide design, while the alloy frame and locking block barrel (originally from Walther P38) were first used in the M1951. The grip angle and the front sight integrated with the slide were also common to earlier Beretta pistols.

The Beretta 92 first appeared in 1976 and was designed by Carlo Beretta, Giuseppe Mazzetti and Vittorio Valle, all experienced firearms designers on the Beretta design team.

92

About 5000 copies of the first design were manufactured from 1975 to 1976.

92S

In order to meet requirements of some law enforcement agencies, Beretta modified the Beretta 92 by adding a slide-mounted combined safety and decocking lever, replacing the frame mounted manual thumb safety. This resulted in the 92S which was adopted by several Italian law enforcement and military units. The later relocation of the magazine release button means these models (92 & 92S) cannot necessarily use later magazines, unless they have notches in both areas.

92SB (92S-1)

Initially called the 92S-1 when it was specifically designed for US Air Force trials (which it won), the model name officially adopted was the 92SB. It included the changes of the 92S, added a firing pin block (thus the addition of the "B" to the name), and relocated the magazine release catch from the bottom of the grip to the lower bottom of the trigger guard.

  • 92SB Compact (1981 – 1991), shortened barrel and slide (13-round magazine capacity). It was replaced by the "92 Compact L".

92F (92SB-F)

Beretta modified the model 92SB slightly to create the 92SB-F (the "F" added to denote entry of the model in U.S. Government federal testing) and, later, the 92G for French Government testing, by making the following changes:

  • Design of all the parts to make them 100% interchangeable to simplify maintenance for large government organizations.
  • Modified the front of the trigger guard so that one could use finger support for easier aiming.
  • Recurved the forward base of the grip to aid aiming.
  • Hard chromed the barrel bore to protect it from corrosion and to reduce wear.
  • New surface coating on the slide called Bruniton, which allegedly provides better corrosion resistance than the previous plain blued finish.

U.S. Military use

Marine Corps Security Guard students perform rapid-fire exercises on the Department of State pistol qualification course Feb. 5 as part of their MSG graduation requirement
Marine Corps Security Guard students perform rapid-fire exercises on the Department of State pistol qualification course Feb. 5 as part of their MSG graduation requirement

When the U.S. Air Force (USAF) began the Joint Service Small Arms Program, Beretta entered the competition. The Beretta 92SB (92S-1) won, but the Army contested the Air Force's methods. There would be several more competitions, and Beretta refined the design of the Beretta 92SB into the Beretta 92SB-F and in slightly modified form the Beretta 92G. These designs were ultimately selected by the United States (Beretta 92F, U.S. Military designation of M9 Pistol) and France (Beretta 92G, French military designation of "PAMAS"). The M9 Pistol was intended to replace the M1911A1 and .38-caliber revolvers and pistols. Over 500,000 M9 pistols were made and the switch-over was largely achieved.

The USAF has scheduled switching over from the early model M9 (92F) to the 92FS standard, according to planning documents. In May 2005, the U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) awarded a sole-source contract to Beretta for 3,480 "M9A1" pistols (M9 with an accessory rail, also available to the public from June 2006).

Early problems

Disassembled Beretta M9
Disassembled Beretta M9

Beretta had two major contracts, about 500,000 units for the U.S. armed forces and about 230,000 units for the French armed forces. In the case of the Beretta 92G, it was agreed that the French would supply the slide steel to Italy until GIAT could start licensed production.

After a year of flawless production and testing of M9 pistols in Italy under U.S. Government supervision, testing and later production was transferred to the Beretta U.S.A. factory in Accokeek, Maryland. At the same time, the U.S. Army became responsible for providing 9 mm ammunition (called the M882 round) to support the testing. Using the new ammunition, problems with M9 test pistols began occurring. In some tests, the frames of the pistols showed microscopic cracks after being fired 5,000 rounds during durability testing. Durability tested barrels showed a concentric indentation inside the chamber and, later, reports of slides breaking during field and test usage were reported.

Early analysis of the breakages by the Army suggested that the problems experienced were due to problems with the pistols themselves. Beretta responded to these reports by requesting testing of the M882 ammunition. Dissatisfied with the progress and methodology of the Army's tests of its ammunition, Beretta obtained independent tests of the ammunition that disclosed excessive pressure levels in the rounds (average pressures exceeding 50,000 psi, compared with maximum NATO-allowed pressures of 35,000 psi).

After delays in delivery of M9 pistols while these issues were resolved, Beretta developed a safety mechanism that significantly reduced risk to the shooter should an M9 slide break. The U.S. Army also changed the propellant mix for the M882 round, after which no further pistol breakages of the types previously seen were reported.

During this same time and in years since, the U.S. Army conducted durability testing of M9 pistols at Aberdeen Proving Ground. These tests revealed an average life of the M9 frame at around 35,000 rounds, of the M9 locking block at around 22,000 rounds, and of the M9 slide at around 75,000 rounds, all well in excess of the contractually-required service life of 5,000 rounds for the pistol. In addition, Government-witnessed tests of the M9 pistol at the Beretta U.S.A. facility resulted in average reliability of the pistol at one malfunction every 17,500 rounds.

According to numerous accounts from founding members, the first US military unit to field the Beretta 92 was SEAL Team Six, however due to the extensive use of the pistol by SEAL Team Six (3-5000 rounds per week, per operator), problems that were later evident with other US military users became apparent and SEAL Team Six switched to the SIG-Sauer P226. The P226 later became the standard sidearm for all of the SEAL Teams.

Design

The Beretta 92's open slide design ensures smooth feeding and ejection of ammunition and allows easy cleaning of obstructions. The hard-chromed barrel bore reduces barrel wear and protects it from corrosion. The locking block barrel lockup provides good accuracy and operability with suppressors due to the in-line travel of the barrel. This is in contrast to the complex travel of Browning designed barrels. The magazine release button is reversible with simple field tools. Reversing the magazine release makes left-handed operation much easier.

Increasingly, it has become popular to reduce handgun weight and cost (and increase corrosion resistance) using polymers, and polymer parts have started showing up in Beretta 92/96 models too. In 2003, the first internal polymer part to be introduced was a recoil spring guide. New polymer parts include safety lever, trigger, mainspring cap, magazine floorplate, and follower. In contrast some parts have been painted black to match the included polymer parts, these include; slide release, disassembly latch, and hammer.

Variants

The Beretta 92 is available in many configurations each with a distinct model name. Combining the various options results in more than 50 different configurations, but the major variants are defined by their operation caliber (92/96/98), operation (F/G/D) and combination of optional items (Inox/Brigadier slide/Compact length):

Calibers

Each model name starts with two digits identifying the caliber:

92
Chambered for the 9x19mm Parabellum.
96
Chambered for the .40 S&W, introduced in 1990.
98
Chambered for 9x21mm IMI. This option was introduced in 1991 for markets where it is illegal to own a weapon chambered for a military cartridge such as 9x19mm. There were also about 5000 early 98F manufactured in .30 Luger.

Operation

F (standard)
The current production version of the 92F has a double action first trigger pull, followed by a single action trigger pull for subsequent rounds. The "F" version has a safety lever that also functions as a decocking lever. It is this version that was adopted by the US Army as the M9 Pistol.
G (no safety)
This version was created for and adopted by the French Military as PAMAS ; it is simply a model 92 with a decocking lever that does not also act as safety lever.
D (double-action, no safety)
The double-action-only variant of the 92F or FS.

Options

Vertec
(2003 –)
  • New vertical grip.
  • Short-reach trigger.
  • Thinner grip panels.
  • Integral accessory rail.
  • Removable front sight (can be replaced with Tritium sight).
  • Beveled magazine well (to enable easier/faster reloading).
Brigadier
(1993 – 2006)
60 g (2.1 oz) heavier slide (and 1 mm (0.04 in)wider) to improve control when firing multiple shots in quick succession. It also includes removable front and rear Novak type sights.
92G Elite IA
92G Elite IA
Elite I
(1999 – 2001)
Pistols with this option include the heavier Brigadier slide and some modifications to the grip and bevel of the magazine well. It was introduced in 1999 and replaced by the Elite II option in 2001.
Elite 1A
(2001-2006)
This option replaced the standard grip on the original Elite with the Vertec grip but retained the Brigadier slide. A flat hammer spring cap was standard as well as the stainless barrel, decock only feature and dovetailed front sight. This model also came with an integral rail located underneath the end of the barrel. This allows for mounting a flashlight, laser sight, or other accessory.
Elite II
(2001 – 2006)
This option replaced the Elite I option in 2001 and includes the same features of the heavier Brigadier slide and removable Novak type sights, but also an extended magazine release catch and skeletonized hammer. This option is available only with the stainless-steel slide.
Inox
(present)
Stainless barrel, slide (frame anodized to match color).
Compact L
(1992 –)
Shorter barrel, slide, and more compact frame (13-round magazine capacity).
Compact Type M
(1992 –)
Similar to the Compact L, but has a slimmer grip that accepts only a single stacked 8-round magazine.
Centurion
(1992 – 1996)
Shorter barrel and slide of (like "Compact"), but with standard-sized frame.
CB
(1992 – 1993)
Single action only. It is designed for sport shooting and includes a front barrel bushing for improved accuracy.
Stock
(1994 –)
Heavier Brigadier slide. It is also designed for sport shooting and includes a front barrel bushing for improved accuracy.
Combat
(1994 – 2001)
Heavier Brigadier slide, single-action only and also designed for sport shooting, including a front barrel bushing for improved accuracy. It also came with an additional longer barrel that was weighted.
Billennium
(2001 only)
A limited-edition (2000 copies) commemoritive (of the year 2000) model manufactured in the 2001, featuring the heavier Brigadier slide.
Steel I
(2004 – 2006)
Stainless steel, single-action-only, collector's model. [Edit: Both single-action-only and single/double-action variants exist. Also used and desirable for competitive shooting because of its steel frame (for added weight & strength), the frame-mounted safety and/or Vertec-style grip-frame that are all found to be desirable features in a competition gun.]

Magazine Capacity

To keep in line with the introduction of laws in some locations restricting magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, Beretta now manufactures magazines that hold less than the factory standard 15 rounds. These magazines have heavier crimping (deeper indentations in the side) to reduce the available space while still keeping the same external dimensions and ensuring that these magazines can be used on existing firearms. Italian magazine manufacturer Mec-Gar now produces magazines in blue and nickel finishes with a 17 round capacity, which fit flush in the magazine well on the 92-series. Mec-Gar also produces an extended 20 round blued magazine that protrudes below the frame by a couple of inches. These magazines provide users in unrestricted states with an even higher capacity for sporting or self defense purposes.

93R

The Beretta 93R is a significantly redesigned 92 to provide the option of firing in three-round bursts. It also has a longer ported barrel, heavier slide, fitting for a shoulder stock, extra forward grip, and an extended magazine. Unlike the other Berettas in the 90 series it doesn't have a decocker and very few are around today.

Taurus

The Beretta 92 was designed for sports and law enforcement use and, due to its reliability, was accepted by military users in South America. A large contract for the Beretta 92 was with the Brazilian army, for which Beretta set up a factory in Brazil. This factory was later sold to the Brazilian gunmaker Taurus. Taurus made pistols under license from Beretta based on the original Beretta 92, calling it the PT92.

Users

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New upsurge of Palestinian attacks from Gaza - 16 missiles fired Wednesday injuring 3 Israeli civilians

March 26, 2008, 1:59 PM (GMT+02:00)

A heavy barrage of 7 Qassam missiles struck Sderot Wednesday night, March 26. One exploded in the old market, injuring three people and leaving 16 in shock. Of the 16 fired during the day, after a three-week slowdwon, one landed south of Ashkelon, several exploded in kibbutzim causing heavy damage to property. Israeli military sources tell DEBKAfile that Hamas is passing missiles to Jihad Islami in order to step up the attacks on Israel, without being held accountable and drawing Israeli fire – to heat up tensions for the arrival of US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice this weekend.

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G-D'S WRATH WILL BE TAKEN OUT ON OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE THIS GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THE FORMATION OF "GAZASTAN" --- KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE WEATHER AND THE ECONOMIC ISSUES AS WE ARE IMPLODING FROM WITHIN.

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Basra oil pipeline struck by bomb Thursday on third day of fighting

March 27, 2008, 1:45 PM (GMT+02:00)

Hizballah Brigades of Iraq emblem

Hizballah Brigades of Iraq emblem

It exploded under the Zubair-1 pipeline carrying crude to Iraq’s Gulf terminals. The blast, the second this week and the turbulence which erupted Monday, are expected to affect oil exports and drilling operations from southern Iraq. International oil prices began to rise in response.

In the Shiite town of Kut, Basra’s neighbor, 44 people are reported killed in fighting between Iraqi forces and local militias Thursday.


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17 US soldiers captured by Mahdi Army in Basra (not confirmed yet)
By: Seele on: 25.03.2008 [23:53 ] (1695 reads)

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Hell now loose in southern Iraq ?

17 US soldiers said captured by Mahdi army but news still pending for confirmation

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Read ISAIAH Chapter 34, Verse 6 - THERE WILL BE A SLAUGHTER FOR G-D IS BASRA...

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Iraqi PM Gives Basra Gunmen Ultimatum

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Mar 26, 6:54 AM (ET)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA
(AP) Iraqis walk through the remnants of Jamila market following clashes between Mahdi Army fighters and...
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BAGHDAD (AP) - Iraq's prime minister on Wednesday gave gunmen in the southern oil port of Basra a three-day deadline to surrender their weapons and renounce violence as clashes between Shiite militia fighters and Iraqi security forces erupted for a second day.

At least 55 people have been killed and 300 wounded in Basra and Baghdad after the fighting spread to the capital's main Shiite district of Sadr City, police and hospital officials said.

The ultimatum came as Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was in to supervise a crackdown against the spiraling violence between Basra militia factions vying for control of the center of the country's vast oil industry located near the Iranian border. The violence has raised fears that the cease-fire declared in August by Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr could unravel, presenting the gravest challenge to the Iraqi government in months.

Suspected Shiite extremists also unleashed rockets or mortars against the U.S.-protected Green Zone in central Baghdad for the third day this week.

(AP) Map locates Karbala, where a car bomb killed at least 39 people Monday
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Three Americans were seriously injured in the attacks on Wednesday, U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo said. At least four Iraqis also were killed after at least two mortar or rocket rounds fell short in Shiite areas of Baghdad.

A resumption of intense fighting by al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia could kill more U.S. soldiers and threaten - at least in the short run - the security gains Washington has hailed as a sign that Iraq is on the road to recovery.

The burgeoning crisis - part of an intense power struggle among Shiite political factions - also will test the skill and resolve of Iraq's Shiite-led government in dealing with Shiite militias, with whom the national leadership had maintained close ties.

The Sadrists are angry over recent raids and detentions, saying U.S. and Iraqi forces have taken advantage of the cease-fire to crack down on the movement.

They also have accused rival Shiite parties, which control Iraqi security forces, of engineering the arrests to prevent them from mounting an effective election campaign. The showdown with al-Sadr has been brewing for months but has accelerated since parliament agreed in February to hold provincial elections by the fall.

(AP) Graphic shows major events on Tuesday in Iraq; 1c x 3 inches; 46.5 mm x 76.2 mm
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On Wednesday in Basra, gunfire echoed through the streets as Iraqi soldiers and police fought the Mahdi Army, police said.

Reinforcements were sent to Basra from the Shiite holy city of Karbala, Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said, adding a large number of gunmen have been detained.

Mortar rounds also hit a detention center in central Basra and injured 10, police said.

Sadiq al-Rikabi, a chief adviser to al-Maliki, said gunmen who fail to turn over their weapons to police stations in Basra by Friday will be targeted for arrest. He added that they also must sign a pledge renouncing violence.

"Any gunman who does not do that within these three days will be an outlaw," he said.

Iraqi officials say at least 40 people were killed and 200 wounded in the fighting in Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad.

British troops have remained at their base at the airport outside Basra and were not involved in the ground fighting, although British planes were providing air surveillance, according to the British Ministry of Defense. It said Wednesday that the Iraqis had not asked the British to intervene.

British forces turned over responsibility for Basra to the Iraqis in late December but say they will assist the Iraqis upon request.

Followers of al-Sadr also have been fighting U.S. and Iraqi forces in Baghdad and other cities in reaction to the Basra crackdown. Fifteen people were killed and 100 wounded in clashes in Sadr City that broke out Tuesday, according to police and hospital officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information.

Hundreds of Sadr City residents took to the streets on Wednesday, demanding the government stop military operations in Basra and other cities and withdraw all security forces.

"We strongly condemn the assaults being conducted by the occupation forces along with the Iraqi security forces who have sold themselves to the renegade occupier," said demonstration leader Sheik Saleh al-Eraibi.

Nobody claimed responsibility for the attacks against the Green Zone, which houses the American and British embassies as well as the Iraqi government headquarters.

The U.S. military blamed Iranian-backed Shiite militia factions for a spate of rockets that struck the sprawling area on Sunday, killing an American financial analyst working for the embassy. Another volley slammed into the area on Tuesday, but Nantongo said no deaths or major casualties were reported.

A mortar shell or rocket that apparently fell short on Wednesday also struck a minibus in the mainly Shiite district of Karradah, killing at least two passengers and wounding seven others, according to police and hospital officials.

Two other Iraqis were killed and four wounded when another round struck a residential area in a Shiite neighborhood in western Baghdad, police said.




A LETTER FROM A SERGEANT MAJOR - YOU MUST READ THIS:

Jimmy Carter, you're the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy and our people hostage. You're the runner-in-chief.

Bill Clinton, you played ring around the Lewinsky while the terrorists were at war with us. You got us into a fight with them in Somalia and then you ran from it. Your weak-willed responses to the U.S.S. Cole and the First Trade Center Bombing and Our Embassy Bombings emboldened the killers. Each time you failed to respond adequately, they grew bolder, until 9/11.

John Kerry, dishonesty is your most prominent attribute. You lied about American Soldiers in Vietnam. Your military service, like your life, is more fiction than fact. You've accused our Soldiers of terrorizing women and children in Iraq. You called Iraq the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, the same words you used to describe Vietnam. You're a fake. You want to run from Iraq and abandon the Iraqis to murderers just as you did the Vietnamese. Iraq, like Vietnam, is another war that you were for, before you were against it.

John Murtha, you said our military was broken. You said we can't win militarily in Iraq. You accused United States Marines of cold-blooded murder without proof. and said we should redeploy to Okinawa . Okinawa, John? And the Democrats call you their military expert! Are you sure you didn't suffer a traumatic brain injury while you were off building your war hero resume? You're a sad, pitiable, corrupt and washed up politician. You're not a Marine, sir. You wouldn't amount to a good pimple on a real Marine's butt. You're a phony and a disgrace. Run away, Johnand hide.

Dick Durbin, you accused our Soldiers at Guantanamo of being Nazis, tenders of Soviet style gulags and as bad as the regime of Pol Pot, who murdered two million of his own people after your party abandoned Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now you want to abandon the Iraqis to the same fate. History was not a good teacher for you, was it? Lord help us! See Dick run.

Ted Kennedy, for days on end you held poster-sized pictures from Abu Grhaib in front of any available television camera. Al Jazeera quoted you saying that Iraqi's torture chambers were open under new management. Did you see the news, Teddy? The Islamic Nazis demonstrate real torture for you again. If you truly supported our troops, you'd show the world poster-sized pictures of that atrocity and demand the annihilation of it. Your legislation stripping support from the South Vietnamese led to a communist victory there. You're a bloated, drunken fool bent on repeating the same historical blunder that turned freedom-seeking people over to homicidal, genocidal maniacs. To paraphrase John Murtha, all while sitting on your wide, gin-soaked rear-end in Washington, you killer.

Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Carl Levine, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Pat Leahy, Chuck Schumer, the Hollywood Leftist morons, et al, ad nauseam: Every time you stand in front of television cameras and broadcast to the Islamic Nazis that we went to war because our President lied, that the war is wrong and our Soldiers are torturers, that we should leave Iraq, you give the Islamic butchers - the same ones that tortured and mutilated American Soldiers - cause to think that we'll run away again, and all they have to do is hang on a little longer.

American news media, theNew YorkTimes particularly: Each time you publish stories about national defense secrets and our intelligence gathering methods, you become one United with the sub-human pieces of camel dung that torture and mutilate the bodies of American Soldiers. You can't strike up the courage to publish cartoons, but you can help Al Qaeda destroy my country. Actually, you are more dangerous to us than Al Qaeda is. Think about that each time you face Mecca to admire your Pulitzer.

You are America's 'AXIS OF IDIOTS'. Your Collective Stupidity will destroy us. Self-serving politics and terrorist-abetting news scoops are more important to you than our national security or the lives of innocent civilians and Soldiers. It bothers you that defending ourselves gets in the way of your elitist sport of politics and your ignorant editorializing. There is as much blood on your hands as is on the hands of murdering terrorists. Don't ever doubt that. Your frolics will only serve to extend this war as they extended Vietnam. If you want our Soldiers home, as you claim, knock off the crap and try supporting your country ahead of supporting your silly political aims and aiding our enemies.

Yes, I'm questioning your patriotism. Your loyalty ends with self. I'm also questioning why you're stealing air that decent Americans could be breathing. You don't deserve the protection of our men and women in uniform. You need to run away from this war, this country. Leave the war to the people who have the will to see it through and the country to people who are willing to defend it.

No, Mr. President, you don't get off the hook, either. Our country has two enemies: Those who want to destroy us from the outside and those who attempt it from within. Your Soldiers are dealing with the outside force. It's your obligation to support them by confronting the AXIS OF IDIOTS.

America must hear it from you that these self-centered people are harming our country, abetting the enemy and endangering our safety. Well up a little anger, please, and channel it toward the appropriate target. You must prosecute those who leak national security secrets to the media. You must prosecute those in the media who knowingly publish those secrets.

Our Soldiers need you to confront the enemy that they cannot. They need you to do it now.

Thanks,
J. D. Pendry

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Barak: Israel’s army and intelligence poised for instant response to Hizballah attack

March 24, 2008, 1:42 PM (GMT+02:00)

First publication of recent Imad Mughniyeh photo surveying Israel from Syrian Mt. Hermon

First publication of recent Imad Mughniyeh photo surveying Israel from Syrian Mt. Hermon

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak decided to place the armed forces on guard in view of indications that Hizballah leader Hassan Nasrallah may seriously intend making good on his threat of “open war” against Israel, whom he accuses of the Feb. 12 killing of Imad Mughniyeh.

Barak said Monday, March 24, Hizballah’s revenge threats are not to be taken lightly: “We must all be vigilant in the near future. But we’ll overcome that too.”

The Israeli Air Force, according to our sources, has prepared two command and control airplanes which are capable of transporting command centers and special forces from place to place and reacting to terrorist attacks far from Israel.

The Magen David Adom service nationwide has placed on standby double its usual complement of ambulances and medical teams.

According to our military sources, Barak latest directives Monday, March 24, signify his change of mind about the prospect of a Hizballah revenge attack. The earlier presumption that the Lebanese terrorists would hold their fire up until the Arab League summit convening in Damascus on March 29-30 has been abandoned to meet fast-moving events across Israel’s northern border.

1. Syria last week pushed the fighting strength of Palestinian terrorist groups under its shared control with Iran – an estimated 3,000-strong – across the border into the Lebanese Beqaa Valley.

It was initially supposed that these groups had been removed from their Damascus bases to get them out of the way of the Arab summit. But they have since been observed taking up battle positions and the delivery of large quantities of brand new weapons and ammunition.

2. Syria has also speeded up its arms shipments to Hizballah - notably, as DEBKAfile revealed two days ago, anti-aircraft weapons.

3. Apparently for back-up, Syria has massed armored divisions along its Lebanese border.

Israel’s military chiefs now read these moves as meaning that Hizballah, the new Palestinian deployment and the Syrian back-up forces are set to launch a military strike against targets in Israel and bracing for Israeli retaliation.

Israel’s defense chiefs do not count out Hizballah embarking on a number of coordinated terrorist operations over several hours or even days, synchronized with cross-border attacks on targets inside Israel.

The terrorist strikes may well be large-scale, multiple-casualty and directed at an overseas Israeli or Jewish target. The head of the terror center in the prime minister’s office referred incautiously last week to Hizballah’s hopes of Israel having to fly home “40 or 50 coffins,” a goal which Israel is determined to prevent - hence the Air Force’s command and control planes on the ready for rapid take-off to the scene of an attack. They are fitted out and manned for a wide range of contingencies, including rescue operations on foreign soil, requiring the local government’s approval.





US deploys nuclear sub to Persian Gulf’
Iran rejects Sarkozy’s claim on missile threats

Monday, March 24, 2008
TEHRAN: An American nuclear submarine has crossed the Suez Canal to join the US fleet stationed in the Persian Gulf, Egyptian sources say.

Egyptian officials reported that the nuclear submarine crossed the canal along with a destroyer on Friday and Egyptian forces were put on high alert when the navy convoy was passing through the canal.

An American destroyer recently left the Persian Gulf, heading towards the Mediterranean Sea; earlier on Thursday, a US Navy rescue ship crossed the canal to enter the Red Sea.

The deployment comes as recent reports allege that US Vice President Dick Cheney is seeking to rally the support of Middle Eastern states for launching an attack on Iran.

This is while US officials deny that Cheney’s Mideast tour is linked to a possible military attack on Iran.

According to the latest reports, in recent months a major part of the US Navy has been deployed in and around the Persian Gulf.

Meanwhile, Iran on Sunday rejected French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s comments on the necessity to build a strong deterrent against new security threats posed by nuclear-armed Islamic states, a news agency reported.

Speaking on Friday at the launch of the fourth of France’s latest generation of nuclear-armed submarines, Sarkozy said Iran was “increasing the range of its missiles while serious suspicions weigh on its nuclear programme”.

But Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini insisted Iran was a source of peace and stability in the Middle East.

“Iran has upgraded its capabilities (and) drawing a parallel between these achievements and possible threats against other countries is inappropriate and invalid,” the students’ news agency ISNA quoted Hosseini as saying.

Iran, locked in a standoff with the West over its nuclear plans, had previously boasted it had missiles that could sink” big warships” in the Gulf, a region where US aircraft carriers and warships operate. Iran’s Shahab-3 missile, with a range of 2,000 km is capable of hitting Israel and US bases in the Gulf, Iranian officials say. Iran has refused to recognise Israel since the 1979 Islamic revolution toppled the US-backed Shah.

Tehran said in November it had built a new missile with a range of 2,000 km, a step analysts said could add more power to its conventional arsenal when tensions over its atomic plans are rising.

The West accuses Iran of trying to acquire nuclear weapons under cover of a civilian programme. Iran denies the charges, saying it only wants to generate electricity to meet the country’s booming demand.

The U.N. Security Council has imposed three sanctions resolutions against Iran following Tehran’s failure to suspend its nuclear activities, as demanded by the council.

Hosseini said Iran posed no threat to any country. “Iran’s foreign policy is in line with international regulations and laws,” he said.

McCain On Iraq: "We're Succeeding.
I Don't Care What Anybody Says"


  • Cheney On 4,000 Dead Americans: They Volunteered


    Tuesday, March 25, 2008

    Wrapping up a nine-day overseas trip to Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney was asked, in an exclusive interview with ABC News, about the effect on the nation of today's grim milestone of at least 4,000 U.S. deaths over the five-year Iraq war.

    Noting the burden placed on military families, the Vice President said the biggest burden is carried by President Bush, and reminded ABC news that the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan volunteered for duty.


4000 DEAD SOLDIERS - your are looking at their individual photos

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NAA GUARDIAN CAN NOT EJECT THE LAST ROUND BECAUSE THERE IS NO EJECTOR.

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usnavymasterchief
January 29th, 2004, 07:55 AM
My son's NAA Guardian .380 is finicky about what he feeds it. It seems to operate best on Win Silvertip Hollow Points or most brands of ball ammo.
BUT and this is a big BUT, no matter what he feeds it, it will stovepipe the last round in the magazine, every time.
It's his wife's carry piece and he is concerned about it's reliability. I have searched other forums and it seems a lot of other folks experience the same problem.
Any one out there know of a possible fix for this or does it have to make a trip back to the factory?
:banghead: :cuss: :fire:

000Buck
January 29th, 2004, 08:40 AM
I have a Guardian in .32, and it does the same thing(randomly though, not always on the last round). I sent it back to the factory, they did some polishing, spring replacement, etc, and it still does the same thing, except with Silver tip. I gave up and just carry a revolver now.

Byron
January 29th, 2004, 08:57 AM
I encountered the same situation and also found that the magazine release was easy to push on firing dropping it. Thankfully, it was not my pistol. I was shooting ball ammo. Byron

Michael
January 29th, 2004, 09:17 AM
Master Chief,

These little guns operate that way pretty much all the time as they do not have ejectors. When the extractor pulls the fired casing from the chamber, the live round underneath, contained within the magazine, moves upward under pressure from the magazine spring, thus, helping push the fired casing up as the extractor pulls it out. When the last round is fired, there is not a round in the magazine to push against the fired casing, which, commonly, gets stuck in a classic stovepipe malfunction. The condition is inherent to the gun based on its simplicity of design.

I have a Guardian in .32 ACP. Rarely, the last casing will eject, but more commonly it gets caught between the slide breechface and the chamber. I don't worry about it for two reasons. First, I don't expect to be performing speed reloads should I actually need to use it. If things have degraded to the point I'm using this gun, I am at that stage of empty the mag in their ear and run away. Second, I have practiced clearing the stoppage, just as I would with my duty weapon, and have had no problems in ejecting the spent casing, and then switching the empty magazine for a full one. These are nice little guns, and I have had no problem with mine through hundreds of rounds, and four years of carry and practice. I hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Michael

usnavymasterchief
January 29th, 2004, 09:27 AM
MICHAEL, Thanks for the very informative answer, I sincerely appreciate it.
His problem is slightly different from what you have experienced, his will not feed the last live cartridge, number six in the magazine.
If it were my gun, I would do as you have done and learn to deal with the problem. On the other hand, it's his wife's carry piece so I think I'll recommend to him to sell or trade the NAA and find a light weight S&W or Taurus .38 SPL revolver for her.
Again I thank you very much for the info.

Matt Sutton
January 29th, 2004, 09:34 AM
From http://www.naaminis.com/naagdfaq.html

I have read/experienced that the case from the last spent round occasionally gets stuck between the slide and the frame. Is this a product 'failure'? Should I be concerned?

No, frankly, not at all. Yes, we are aware of, and understand the causes of, this condition. Yes, it is not an uncommon occurrence. No, we do not believe it represents a performance failure and we do not intend to try to 'correct' the condition.

The design of this pistol does not include an ejector (not to be confused with an extractor), but relies on the following action of a fresh cartridge, as it is moving up the magazine stack and towards the chamber, to push the spent extracted case out of the breech. When the magazine is empty and there is no following cartridge to exert this pressure, the spent case may simply be trapped by the slide returning forward (the slide is not designed to remain open after the last round).

When a full magazine is inserted to replace the empty one, the slide must, in any/every event ('stovepipe' or not) be re-racked to chamber a fresh round. During this process, the spent case simply falls freely out of the breech and the pistol returns to battery - as though the condition had never existed. (Please note that we are not attempting to excuse any stovepipe of a live round. If that condition exists with any of our pistols, we will be happy to rework the gun to eliminate that failure).

ajacobs
January 29th, 2004, 09:36 AM
For what it is worth, NAA will not acept it for waranty work on a last round stove pipe as they consider it part of the design as mentioned above. I have both the .32 and .380. I don't carry a reload when I carry it so it doesn't bother me but if I did, all I would have to do is drop the magazine, insert a new one and rack the slide just like normal and it clears itself. SO for me it is a non issue. While I respect that this is not confidence inspiring. I think that is based on experiences with other handguns and practice would overcome any hesitation about the design. But obviously there is nothing more important than someone's love one and if they want to change obviously the should do it.

HogRider
January 29th, 2004, 11:11 AM
I have a Guardian .380 since last May. Bought it new. During the initial break in period I had all kinds of not feeding and stove piping problems. But it only happened with PMC ammo. After about 50 - 60 rounds those problems went away and since then it has fed Hollow points and FMJs just fine and never has given me the stove piping at the last round problem. I have shot a little over 200 rounds through it and have not had any issues with it since.

usnavymasterchief
January 29th, 2004, 12:03 PM
MATT SUTTON, If you are a company rep for NAA your attitude sucks!!!!
People pay over $400 for a compact pistol they should be able to feel confident that it will work as advertised. Where does it say in your published owner's manual that the last spent casing will probably stovepipe and that's an OK normal condition. You say you are aware of the problem, why don't you try to fix it?
I won't trust an NAA Semi-auto as far as I can throw one and if your attitude is representative of the company you work for then I shall do all I know how to do to get the word out that your product does not live up to it's advertising and that The Guardian series is a poor investment. We bought your product because it was made in the USA, dam shame that off shore products perform better than yours. Even the little guy, Kel-Tec, will at least try to fix their problems but you say you have no intention of trying to fix your guns problems. You don't have to be a gunsmith to figure out that Kel-Tec is a better investment than NAA.
You say you have no intention of trying to correct the problem and that you don't intend to stand behind your product? Well then who do I have to speak to to get my $440 back, certainly not you I hope!
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NAA DOES NOT CARE - DON'T YOU GET IT BY NOW
THEY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS INFERIOR DESIGN FOR YEARS.

I SUGGEST YOU BUY RUGER OR KEL-TEC
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THERE ARE NOT MANY GOOD SMALL POCKET AND RELIABLE 380 ACP PISTOLS OUT THERE, MOST COMPANIES ARE CUTTING EVERY CORNER THEY CAN IN ORDER TO INCREASE THEIR MARGIN OF PROFIT. IN THE LONG RUN THEY LOSE AT YOUR EXPENSE.

IF YOU WANT A DECENT 380 ACP PISTOL - ONE CHOICE IS TO LOOK FOR A MINT CONDITION COLT MUSTANG. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THE COLT PONY AND I CONSIDER THE PONY A PIECE OF "JUNK"..........

NO BS HERE, I DO NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.

NAA HAD THEIR CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR GUARDIAN INTO A FIRST CLASS LITTLE PISTOL BUT THEY DID IT THEIR WAY AND NOW KEL-TEC AND ESPECIALLY THE NEW RUGER "LCP" WILL EAT THEIR LUNCH. THEY CAN NOT COMPARE TO RUGER AND RUGER'S RESOURCES.

Pistol
LCP

Caliber:.380 Auto
Barrel Length:2.75"
Grip:Glass-Filled Nylon
Rear Sight:Fixed
Suggested Retail Price: $ 330.00


THE NEW RUGER "LCP" AS WELL AS THE KEL-TEC HAS A BETTER EXTRACTOR AND A BETTER FEED RAMP AND IT HAS AN EJECTOR WHICH THE NAA GUARDIAN DOES NOT. THE RUGER "LCP" AND THE KEL -TEC FIRES FROM A LOCKED BREECH SO YOU WILL FEEL LESS RECOIL. THE NAA GUARDIAN IS A DIRECT BLOWBACK OPERATION.

HAVING A POLYMER FRAME IS GOOD FOR CARRY, DO NOT LET PEOPLE BS YOU. THESE PISTOLS ARE DESIGNED TO WORK FLAWLESSLY AND TO SHOOT A LITTLE AND TO CARRY ALL THE TIME.

THE OLD COLT MUSTANG HAS ALL THE BETTER FEATURES. THE MUSTANG WAS SINGLE ACTION ONLY. IF YOU HAVE A LIGHT WEIGHT MUSTANG DO NOT USE A STEEL GUIDE ROD AS IT WILL CHEW UP YOUR FRAME WITH REPEATED USE.

NAA HAS HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO REVISE AND RENOVATE AND RE-ENGINEER THE "GUARDIAN" BUT THEY CHOSE NOT TO SO I CAN NOT FEEL SORRY FOR THE GREEDY OWNER. HAD HE DONE THE RIGHT THING YEARS AGO AND HE KNEW ABOUT ALL THESE PROBLEMS HE WOULD HAVE HAD A VERY FINE PISTOL TODAY.

THE NEW RUGER "LCP" WILL WHOLESALE FOR ABOUT $220.00 AND YOU JUST CAN NOT BEAT THAT, SO IF YOU JUST ADD $50.00 TO THAT YOU ARE STILL GETTING A GOOD BUY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THE USE OF CORBON POWERBALL WHICH IS A 70 GRAIN BULLET AT 1100 FEET PER SECOND.

ITS ALWAYS EASY FOR OWNERS TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE PURCHASES THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE, AS THEY WILL NOT FACE REALITY. "IT IS WHAT IT IS"

NAA Guardian Rifling - where is it ???


NAA Guardian - Breech Face Problem



FROM THE NAA MESSAGE BOARD REGARDING PROBLEMS WITH THE NAA GUARDIAN
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Brewfu
Message Board Member
Username: Brewfu

Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 08:51 pm:

I finaly found a guardian .380 for sale but it was used,i was tired of looking and this seemed to be what i was looking for,turns out this is a 2005 model.I took the gun to my brothers with some remington 95 gr fmjs and every other round choked almost.the spent caseing alot of times would get slammed back into the barrel,its like it wasnt picking up the new round or the spent casing just wasnt getting pushed out in time does anyone know if there was a problem with the early model .380 guardian? is it just wore out ? or was it just cheap wall mart ammo? anyways im gonna try a few diffrent types of ammo like some 102 gr +p+ and mabee a lighter load like a 90 or 92 gr i am a bit dissapointed at this point in time i can not trust this gun,it might be headed for the trash can and i will get a revolver.I like the gun the trigger pull was np the weight is np the size is perfect but i need it to be reliable any suggestions?? can it be sent back to guardian to be refurbished?
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Darvell
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Username: Darvell

Post Number: 701
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 09:05 pm:

I have a very early Guardian .380. In fact, it's the first .380 to be sold from the factory as a retail sale and has a serial number in the teens. I had a few problems with light strikes on hard-primed ammo, but that was easily fixed with a tighter hammer spring (done by NAA).

It's been very reliable since then. I may take it back to NAA and have some custom work done on it and ask if there are any modifications that they suggest to older .380's, but I don't think there are any significant problems from early models. You might want to ask NAA directly about that, though.

In any case, go ahead and send me yours if it will save it from the trash. ;) It's possible all it needs is a good cleaning and oil job.

Darvell
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Naacustsvc
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Username: Naacustsvc

Post Number: 61
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:31 am:

Send your Guardian back to NAA for evaluation. We will be happy to check over your new purchase for you.
NAA Repairs
Attn: Jennifer
2150 S 950 E
Provo, UT 84606
Include a note with your package that has your name, address, phone number, and the information listed above in your post.
Please call if you have any further questions- 1-800-821-5783.

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Sgtknuckles
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Username: Sgtknuckles

Post Number: 81
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:40 am:

NAA Return is a Good Idea...<:-)) ~ OR ~ Well This Will Get You On The RIGHT Road To Happyness...<:-)) Its all about Springs (timing) in a Auto... they are ALL working together to get it to work... And "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" in a Automatic... Drag is a No No in a Automatic, that's why DriLube is King on a Self-defense Gun... It can Ride in you Pocket,or sit in a Drawer for a Year, and its ready to Getter-Done... What's our Motto Gunner's ~ "NO GUMMED UP GUNS" Remember~ any Shiny spot (wear) on a Auto's innerds is asking YOU for some LUBE...!!! 1) Get a New Slide Spring from NAA (and put it in the right way~direction) 2) Get a New Mag Spring From NAA (The Top Vary End of the spring faces to the Bullet end)(or a New Mag) 3) Good Quality AMMO (Fiocchi)(Remington is Crap) 4) Cleaning (brush the Chamber with a good Brass Bore Brush~ Straight through & Straight back out~ 5 times should do it~ make sure its clean) 5) Get some Remington DriLube (Teflon)(Its a Cleaner&Lube with Zero Drag~ Flush out the Extractor assembly~ Flush the firing pin hole & assembly from both sides~ now give the Slide Rails a Shot & every other moving internal part like the Hammer ect.ect. and put the gun back together, & wipe the Gun down with a Dry cloth)(Range Duty~ take the can to the range and give the slide a blast every 50 rounds just to be Nice)(DriLube does not attract Dirt, Lint, or Stain) Remington Rem DriLube http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showpage?saleitemid=103872&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=free&utm_campaign=10612

Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Pistol Ammunition 380AP, 380 ACP, Full Metal Jacket, 95 GR, 1010 fps, 50 Rd/bx $12.70
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Standard Deviation and
Extreme Spreads are listed in ft/sec.

Glaser 70-gr. Safety Slug(Silver) 1299 (ES: 116/SD: 44)
Magtech Guardian Gold +P 85-gr. JHP 1075 (ES: 33/SD: 10)
Federal 90-gr. JHP 1017 (ES: 48, SD: 17)
Federal 90 gr Hydrashok 1036 (ES: 80, SD: 23)
Hornady 90-gr. XTP 933 (ES: 42, SD: 14)
Corbon 90-gr. JHP +P 1083 (ES: 45, SD: 17)
Magtech 95-gr. FMJ 964 (ES: 29, SD: 10)
Remington UMC 95-gr. FMJ 970 (ES: 32, SD: 9)
Remington 102-gr. Golden Saber 928 (ES: 70, SD: 22)
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Phydeaux88
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Username: Phydeaux88

Post Number: 761
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:22 am:

Brewfu
SgtKnuckles is right about dry lube.
I prefer Militec
http://www.militec-1.com/
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Sgtknuckles
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Username: Sgtknuckles

Post Number: 82
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 02:18 pm:

Phydeaux88,... Your right... I Should have included Militec to... Its a little better for sustained Shooting...<:-)) When I take the extra time, and swab the Slide on My .45 Auto with it a couple of times, and use a hair-dryer to dry it... Its Vary Tenacious Stuff... The Military Loves the Stuff...<:-)) Militec keeps them AR-TYPE M-4 Jamo-Matics the Troops are using in the Sand-Pit, and it Keeps them running...<:-))
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Brewfu
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Username: Brewfu

Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:56 pm:

Thanks to all that replied to my problem.I went to a gunshop to sign up for the carry permit class and there was a gunsmith shop next door,i thought i would get the feed ramp polished and get some good ammo too.i talked to the gunsmith and showed him my piece,after a short examination he noticed that the tip was chipped off the extractor and noteing that that dosent happen for no reason he also pointed out that the chamber and ramp were very rough in fact looked as though it was blast beaded metal that had never been polished he said it might have gotten missed in the production of the gun.so i left the gun with him he will either send for a new extractor and polish the chamber and feed ramp or send the gun to NAA.i feel better letting a gunsmith handle this than sending the gun myself Problem solved i would like to get some custom sights though,i am paranoid shipping stuff somthing always goes wrong /sigh anyways thanks for the input u guys hopfully i will be happily shooting in a few weeks
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